[NOTICIA] SQL 2005 Express Edition, el sucesor de MSDE

29/06/2004 - 15:17 por Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL] | Informe spam
SQL Express 2005, el sucesor de MSDE, con herramientas gráficas de
administración, y mejoras funcionales (bases de hasta 4 G, no más penalty de
performance por concurrencia...) Además de eso, hay versiones nuevas
reducidas y de bajo costo para los programadores de aplicaciones.

Van los detalles, disculpen que están en inglés.

CNET News.com
June 28, 2004, 9:00 PM PDT
Microsoft reaches beyond professional programmers
By Martin LaMonica
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+reach...g=nefd.top

Microsoft is reaching out to nonprofessional programmers with a revamped
line of developer tools, including a free version of its forthcoming SQL
Server database.

As expected, the company launched the new line of "Express" branded
developer tools at its TechEd Europe conference in Amsterdam on Tuesday. The
lightweight editions of its Visual Studio line and SQL Server database are
meant to expanding Microsoft's presence among students and hobbyists.

Microsoft executives also confirmed that beta versions of SQL Server 2005
and Visual Studio 2005 are "imminent." Completed products are expected in
the first half of next year.

At the same time that Visual Studio 2005 and SQL Server 2005 are made
available, Microsoft will release the Express line, which will includes
stripped-down versions of its Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual C++ and Visual
J++ products. The company will also release a free SQL Server Express
Edition. A new product, Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition, will be
priced in the "tens of dollars," said John Montgomery, director of marketing
for Microsoft's developer division.

Montgomery said Microsoft is targeting a large population--the company
estimates there are 18 million nonprofessionals, compared to 6 million
professional programmers--of people who want cheap or free products
appropriate for building business applications. Often, nonprofessionals use
Web-oriented tools, such as FrontPage or Macromedia Flash, which are
suitable for front-end design but not database-driven business applications,
he said.

The Express edition of SQL Server 2005, also planned for release next year,
will be limited to a single server processor, one gigabyte of memory and 400
gigabytes of storage. Even with these restrictions, Microsoft expects the
database to compete with open-source alternatives, such as MySQL, said Tom
Rizzo, director of product management in the SQL Server unit.

"It is really for a data-driven application where you just want a place to
put your data in and maybe have it interoperate with (higher-end versions
of) SQL Server through replication," Rizzo said.

The Express edition allows developers to use Visual Studio to write "stored
procedures," or prewritten database queries, with different programming
languages and store XML as a data type. However, it does not include have
reporting capabilities or the same management tools as the full-scale
editions of SQL Server, he said.

Microsoft also plans to announce an agreement with Amazon and eBay to make
software development kits for Amazon, eBay and PayPal Web services available
to Microsoft developers via download.

Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
Uruguay LatAm
Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y no otorga ningun
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#6 Miguel Egea
30/06/2004 - 11:48 | Informe spam
Acabo de pulicar lo mismo, debí leer antes (lo siento)


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Miguel Egea Gómez
Webmaster de PortalSQL

(lo de online sobra)
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"Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]" escribió en el
mensaje news:#
SQL Express 2005, el sucesor de MSDE, con herramientas gráficas de
administración, y mejoras funcionales (bases de hasta 4 G, no más penalty


de
performance por concurrencia...) Además de eso, hay versiones nuevas
reducidas y de bajo costo para los programadores de aplicaciones.

Van los detalles, disculpen que están en inglés.

CNET News.com
June 28, 2004, 9:00 PM PDT
Microsoft reaches beyond professional programmers
By Martin LaMonica



http://news.com.com/Microsoft+reach...g=nefd.top

Microsoft is reaching out to nonprofessional programmers with a revamped
line of developer tools, including a free version of its forthcoming SQL
Server database.

As expected, the company launched the new line of "Express" branded
developer tools at its TechEd Europe conference in Amsterdam on Tuesday.


The
lightweight editions of its Visual Studio line and SQL Server database are
meant to expanding Microsoft's presence among students and hobbyists.

Microsoft executives also confirmed that beta versions of SQL Server 2005
and Visual Studio 2005 are "imminent." Completed products are expected in
the first half of next year.

At the same time that Visual Studio 2005 and SQL Server 2005 are made
available, Microsoft will release the Express line, which will includes
stripped-down versions of its Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual C++ and


Visual
J++ products. The company will also release a free SQL Server Express
Edition. A new product, Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition, will be
priced in the "tens of dollars," said John Montgomery, director of


marketing
for Microsoft's developer division.

Montgomery said Microsoft is targeting a large population--the company
estimates there are 18 million nonprofessionals, compared to 6 million
professional programmers--of people who want cheap or free products
appropriate for building business applications. Often, nonprofessionals


use
Web-oriented tools, such as FrontPage or Macromedia Flash, which are
suitable for front-end design but not database-driven business


applications,
he said.

The Express edition of SQL Server 2005, also planned for release next


year,
will be limited to a single server processor, one gigabyte of memory and


400
gigabytes of storage. Even with these restrictions, Microsoft expects the
database to compete with open-source alternatives, such as MySQL, said Tom
Rizzo, director of product management in the SQL Server unit.

"It is really for a data-driven application where you just want a place to
put your data in and maybe have it interoperate with (higher-end versions
of) SQL Server through replication," Rizzo said.

The Express edition allows developers to use Visual Studio to write


"stored
procedures," or prewritten database queries, with different programming
languages and store XML as a data type. However, it does not include have
reporting capabilities or the same management tools as the full-scale
editions of SQL Server, he said.

Microsoft also plans to announce an agreement with Amazon and eBay to make
software development kits for Amazon, eBay and PayPal Web services


available
to Microsoft developers via download.

Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
Uruguay LatAm
Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y no otorga ningun
derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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#7 Salvador Ramos
30/06/2004 - 12:15 | Informe spam
Os paso otro enlace interesante sobre el tema:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq/

Un saludo
Salvador Ramos
Murcia - España
[MVP SQL Server]
www.helpdna.net

"Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]" escribió en el
mensaje news:%
Salvador, luego de instalarlo, esperamos tus comentarios :-)

Este artículo (en inglés) explica las principales características de SQL
Server 2005 Express Edition.




http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...WD_SSE.asp

Y este otro, como hacer desarrollo web con las nuevas herramientas:




http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...WD_SSE.asp

Saludos
gux

Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
Uruguay LatAm
Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y no otorga ningun
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"Salvador Ramos" wrote in message
news:
> Muchas gracias, Gustavo, muy interesante.
>
> Voy a descargarlo y a ver si lo puedo instalar :-)
>
> Un saludo
> Salvador Ramos
> Murcia - España
>
> No puedes conseguir software rápidamente disminuyendo su calidad.
> En cambio, si que lo consigues aumentando la calidad.
>
> www.helpdna.net (información sobre Windows DNA, SQL Server, VB, ...)
>
>
> Microsoft MVP SQL Server
> MCP SQL Server
> PASS Spanish Group (www.sqlpass.org)
>
>
> "Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]" escribió en el
> mensaje news:%
> >
>



http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...laylang=en
> >
> > SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview
> >
> > Download SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview, successor to MSDE
> 2000.
> > This is a Technical Preview (Pre-Beta 2) release of the product and is
> > unsupported in production environments.
> >
> > Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
> > Uruguay LatAm
> > Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y no otorga


ningun
> > derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers
> > no rights.
> > "Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]" wrote in


message
> > news:%
> > > SQL Express 2005, el sucesor de MSDE, con herramientas gráficas de
> > > administración, y mejoras funcionales (bases de hasta 4 G, no más
> penalty
> > de
> > > performance por concurrencia...) Además de eso, hay versiones nuevas
> > > reducidas y de bajo costo para los programadores de aplicaciones.
> > >
> > > Van los detalles, disculpen que están en inglés.
> > >
> > > CNET News.com
> > > June 28, 2004, 9:00 PM PDT
> > > Microsoft reaches beyond professional programmers
> > > By Martin LaMonica
> > >
> >
>



http://news.com.com/Microsoft+reach...g=nefd.top
> > >
> > > Microsoft is reaching out to nonprofessional programmers with a
revamped
> > > line of developer tools, including a free version of its forthcoming
SQL
> > > Server database.
> > >
> > > As expected, the company launched the new line of "Express" branded
> > > developer tools at its TechEd Europe conference in Amsterdam on
Tuesday.
> > The
> > > lightweight editions of its Visual Studio line and SQL Server


database
> are
> > > meant to expanding Microsoft's presence among students and


hobbyists.
> > >
> > > Microsoft executives also confirmed that beta versions of SQL Server
> 2005
> > > and Visual Studio 2005 are "imminent." Completed products are


expected
> in
> > > the first half of next year.
> > >
> > > At the same time that Visual Studio 2005 and SQL Server 2005 are


made
> > > available, Microsoft will release the Express line, which will
includes
> > > stripped-down versions of its Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual C++


and
> > Visual
> > > J++ products. The company will also release a free SQL Server


Express
> > > Edition. A new product, Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition,
will
> be
> > > priced in the "tens of dollars," said John Montgomery, director of
> > marketing
> > > for Microsoft's developer division.
> > >
> > > Montgomery said Microsoft is targeting a large population--the


company
> > > estimates there are 18 million nonprofessionals, compared to 6


million
> > > professional programmers--of people who want cheap or free products
> > > appropriate for building business applications. Often,
nonprofessionals
> > use
> > > Web-oriented tools, such as FrontPage or Macromedia Flash, which are
> > > suitable for front-end design but not database-driven business
> > applications,
> > > he said.
> > >
> > > The Express edition of SQL Server 2005, also planned for release


next
> > year,
> > > will be limited to a single server processor, one gigabyte of memory
and
> > 400
> > > gigabytes of storage. Even with these restrictions, Microsoft


expects
> the
> > > database to compete with open-source alternatives, such as MySQL,


said
> Tom
> > > Rizzo, director of product management in the SQL Server unit.
> > >
> > > "It is really for a data-driven application where you just want a
place
> to
> > > put your data in and maybe have it interoperate with (higher-end
> versions
> > > of) SQL Server through replication," Rizzo said.
> > >
> > > The Express edition allows developers to use Visual Studio to write
> > "stored
> > > procedures," or prewritten database queries, with different
programming
> > > languages and store XML as a data type. However, it does not include
> have
> > > reporting capabilities or the same management tools as the


full-scale
> > > editions of SQL Server, he said.
> > >
> > > Microsoft also plans to announce an agreement with Amazon and eBay


to
> make
> > > software development kits for Amazon, eBay and PayPal Web services
> > available
> > > to Microsoft developers via download.
> > >
> > > Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
> > > Uruguay LatAm
> > > Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y no otorga
ningun
> > > derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers
> > > no rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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#8 ulises
30/06/2004 - 14:45 | Informe spam
Gracias, acabo de instalarlo en una máquina virtual y lo
primero que noté es que no viene con el SQLServer Express
Manager, según me comentaron estará disponible todavía con
el Beta3 :( ...

Saludos,
Ulises

Os paso otro enlace interesante sobre el tema:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq/

Un saludo
Salvador Ramos
Murcia - España
[MVP SQL Server]
www.helpdna.net

"Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]"


escribió en el
mensaje news:%
Salvador, luego de instalarlo, esperamos tus




comentarios :-)

Este artículo (en inglés) explica las principales




características de SQL
Server 2005 Express Edition.




http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?


url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/VWD_SSE.asp

Y este otro, como hacer desarrollo web con las nuevas




herramientas:




http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?


url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/VWD_SSE.asp

Saludos
gux

Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
Uruguay LatAm
Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y




no otorga ningun
derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no




warranties, and confers
no rights.
"Salvador Ramos"




wrote in message
news:
> Muchas gracias, Gustavo, muy interesante.
>
> Voy a descargarlo y a ver si lo puedo instalar :-)
>
> Un saludo
> Salvador Ramos
> Murcia - España
>
> No puedes conseguir software rápidamente disminuyendo




su calidad.
> En cambio, si que lo consigues aumentando la calidad.
>
> www.helpdna.net (información sobre Windows DNA, SQL




Server, VB, ...)
>
>
> Microsoft MVP SQL Server
> MCP SQL Server
> PASS Spanish Group (www.sqlpass.org)
>
>
> "Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]"




escribió en el
> mensaje news:%





> >
>



http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?


FamilyId,CF2AB6-BFD9-4AC8-B31D-
DDBAD7D532A2&displaylang=en
> >
> > SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview
> >
> > Download SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview,




successor to MSDE
> 2000.
> > This is a Technical Preview (Pre-Beta 2) release of




the product and is
> > unsupported in production environments.
> >
> > Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
> > Uruguay LatAm
> > Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin




garantias y no otorga
ningun
> > derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no




warranties, and
confers
> > no rights.
> > "Gustavo Larriera [MVP SQL]"




wrote in
message
> > news:%
> > > SQL Express 2005, el sucesor de MSDE, con




herramientas gráficas de
> > > administración, y mejoras funcionales (bases de




hasta 4 G, no más
> penalty
> > de
> > > performance por concurrencia...) Además de eso,




hay versiones nuevas
> > > reducidas y de bajo costo para los programadores




de aplicaciones.
> > >
> > > Van los detalles, disculpen que están en inglés.
> > >
> > > CNET News.com
> > > June 28, 2004, 9:00 PM PDT
> > > Microsoft reaches beyond professional programmers
> > > By Martin LaMonica
> > >
> >
>



http://news.com.com/Microsoft+reach...fessional+


programmers/2100-1007_3-5248349.html?tag=nefd.top
> > >
> > > Microsoft is reaching out to nonprofessional




programmers with a
revamped
> > > line of developer tools, including a free version




of its forthcoming
SQL
> > > Server database.
> > >
> > > As expected, the company launched the new line




of "Express" branded
> > > developer tools at its TechEd Europe conference




in Amsterdam on
Tuesday.
> > The
> > > lightweight editions of its Visual Studio line




and SQL Server
database
> are
> > > meant to expanding Microsoft's presence among




students and
hobbyists.
> > >
> > > Microsoft executives also confirmed that beta




versions of SQL Server
> 2005
> > > and Visual Studio 2005 are "imminent." Completed




products are
expected
> in
> > > the first half of next year.
> > >
> > > At the same time that Visual Studio 2005 and SQL




Server 2005 are
made
> > > available, Microsoft will release the Express




line, which will
includes
> > > stripped-down versions of its Visual Basic,




Visual C#, Visual C++
and
> > Visual
> > > J++ products. The company will also release a




free SQL Server
Express
> > > Edition. A new product, Visual Web Developer 2005




Express Edition,
will
> be
> > > priced in the "tens of dollars," said John




Montgomery, director of
> > marketing
> > > for Microsoft's developer division.
> > >
> > > Montgomery said Microsoft is targeting a large




population--the
company
> > > estimates there are 18 million nonprofessionals,




compared to 6
million
> > > professional programmers--of people who want




cheap or free products
> > > appropriate for building business applications.




Often,
nonprofessionals
> > use
> > > Web-oriented tools, such as FrontPage or




Macromedia Flash, which are
> > > suitable for front-end design but not database-




driven business
> > applications,
> > > he said.
> > >
> > > The Express edition of SQL Server 2005, also




planned for release
next
> > year,
> > > will be limited to a single server processor, one




gigabyte of memory
and
> > 400
> > > gigabytes of storage. Even with these




restrictions, Microsoft
expects
> the
> > > database to compete with open-source




alternatives, such as MySQL,
said
> Tom
> > > Rizzo, director of product management in the SQL




Server unit.
> > >
> > > "It is really for a data-driven application where




you just want a
place
> to
> > > put your data in and maybe have it interoperate




with (higher-end
> versions
> > > of) SQL Server through replication," Rizzo said.
> > >
> > > The Express edition allows developers to use




Visual Studio to write
> > "stored
> > > procedures," or prewritten database queries, with




different
programming
> > > languages and store XML as a data type. However,




it does not include
> have
> > > reporting capabilities or the same management




tools as the
full-scale
> > > editions of SQL Server, he said.
> > >
> > > Microsoft also plans to announce an agreement




with Amazon and eBay
to
> make
> > > software development kits for Amazon, eBay and




PayPal Web services
> > available
> > > to Microsoft developers via download.
> > >
> > > Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
> > > Uruguay LatAm
> > > Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin




garantias y no otorga
ningun
> > > derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with




no warranties, and
> confers
> > > no rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>






.

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#9 José Luis Santana
30/06/2004 - 19:02 | Informe spam
Si, lo indica en una tabla comparativa con MSDE que hay en
este artículo.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?
url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/sseoverview.asp

En el apartado de comparación con MSDE

Saludos.
José Luis Santana

Gracias Gux por los links, lo descargué temprano pero aún


no me da
tiempo para probarlo, mi pregunta va por la afirmación


que ya no
tendrá la penalización de rendimiento que tiene el MSDE,


si bien en
los documentos que he leido no lo mencionan (solo


mencionan la
limitación de 1 CPU y 4GB de tamaño) tampoco indican nada


en
contrario. ¿has encontrado algún link donde indiquen


claramente que no
tendrá esta limitación?.

Saludos,
Ulises

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:07:37 -0300, "Gustavo Larriera


[MVP SQL]"
wrote:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?




FamilyId,CF2AB6-BFD9-4AC8-B31D-
DDBAD7D532A2&displaylang=en

SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview

Download SQL Server 2005 Express Technical Preview,




successor to MSDE 2000.
This is a Technical Preview (Pre-Beta 2) release of the




product and is
unsupported in production environments.

Gustavo Larriera, MVP-SQL, MCSE
Uruguay LatAm
Este mensaje se proporciona "COMO ESTA" sin garantias y




no otorga ningun
derecho / This posting is provided "AS IS" with no




warranties, and confers
no rights.



.

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