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02/08/2003 - 06:00 por Doug | Informe spam
Hello to all, and really, a lot of thanks to all ahead of time who take the
time with resect to this problem. It is quite the serious one, and I have
no idea how to go about solving it, or even what could be causing it. I'll
try to be very descriptive...for more details just ask:

The Problem: I can't play MP3s clearly on ANY player, including winamp 2,
2.09, 2,9, 3, Windows Media Player, or RealPlayer. As a matter of fact I
get bad quality on avi's as well, divx inclusive. What I mean by clearly is
that if I'm playing a song lets say, the music is loud and clear, but the
singers lyrics can hardly be heard. Basically, the song sounds as if it
were recorded in a church where the echo would drown out any words in the
song, and actually, this echo is there. It sounds really weird, and I must
admit it's very hard to describe.

The System: Pentium 200 Mhz, yes its old, but all worked fine 1 month ago
(I've posted with regards to this problem before, but then when I thought it
wen't away, it's back now...fresh after an all complete system reinstall),
32 megs or RAM. Like I said, it played mp3's fine 1 month ago, and I have a
Pentium 133Mhz with 16 megs or RAM playes MP3s just fine!

Actions taken up to now: as I stated, this problem occured before, and then
went away again. It was suggested by a few that this problem could be
caused by add-ware shipped with kazaa. When the problem again came back (2
days ago), I finally decided to re-format the entire system (fdisk, format
...the whole nine yards), then installed win95 and win 98 (clean and from
scratch). After getting win98 installed on the system, I installed the
basic drivers for sound card, network adapter, video driver, and then tried
winamp. And to my complete surprise, the same thing happens, the song/audio
file, etc.. playes really strange, with a sort of echo in the background
with the lyrics drown out by the instrmentals (almost as if the "lyric
layer" was decreased in volume while the "song layer" was increased in
volume - if that's making any sense). Then I tried Windows Media Player
6.4, and the exact same thing occurs, can't play avi's, mp3... (didn't try
other compressed audio formats). It does play cd's, but that of course is
no surprise as playing cd format cd's isn't all that difficult for a cd-rom.
I should also mention that when I play these songs on any player, my
processor activity does not rise above 5%, thus eliminating the possibility
that the old pentium is having problems keeping up with the decompression.
Also, I was suspecting the sound card, but as already mentioned, I can play
cd's just fine...

Well, that's all I can think of which seems relevent for the time being...
.

Doug

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#11 paul s
02/08/2003 - 23:50 | Informe spam
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:55:09 -0500, Doug wrote:

It makes so much sense that the only thing I can say ishow could I
forget about that cable. And with regards to my last question, I guess
that music stored on a regular cd is already in analog format?



The music is stored on a CD digitally but uncompressed, but is
converted to analogue within the drive, rather than via the sound-card.

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#12 paul s
03/08/2003 - 00:55 | Informe spam
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:56:00 -0500, Doug wrote:

Pardon about posting to the wrong threadsmozilla's idea

DOug



Was it Mozilla's fault? Your initial post was done from Outlook Express.

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1)
Gecko/20030225

10 out of 10 for your choice of OS to use with Mozilla. I did use
Mozilla for a while on newsgroups but then switched to Pan.

BTW how do your MP3s sound when played on that OS?

Paul S
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#13 Doug
03/08/2003 - 01:11 | Informe spam
I switch between the two os's, so there's posting from both.
Also, I just tried playing a wav file, and that didn't work either,
so I guess I'm going to have to invest in a new sound card. What's funny
though
is that I experienced this before and it went away for a while

Doug
"paul s" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:56:00 -0500, Doug wrote:

> Pardon about posting to the wrong threadsmozilla's idea
>
> DOug

Was it Mozilla's fault? Your initial post was done from Outlook Express.

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1)
Gecko/20030225

10 out of 10 for your choice of OS to use with Mozilla. I did use
Mozilla for a while on newsgroups but then switched to Pan.

BTW how do your MP3s sound when played on that OS?

Paul S
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#14 dadiOH
03/08/2003 - 01:15 | Informe spam
"Doug" wrote in message
news:bgh4ql$k4g$
dadiOH wrote:
> "Doug" wrote in message
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> As you said, it is the sound card's job to turn digital data into analog
> sound. And vice versa.
>
> When you play a CD, the digital data (wave) is sent to the sound card


and
> comes out as sound.
>
> When you play an MP3, the MP3 data is decoded to wave by the player and


sent
> to the sound card. Only difference twixt it and an audio CD is the
> necessity of decoding the MP3's digital "shorthand" data to digital


wave.
>
> Earlier, you said that one channel seemed much louder than another.


Have
> you looked at a file with a wave editor to see what each channel looks


like?
>
This sort of work I want to avoid at all costs, afterall, I'm know
music/sound/mp3 expert. And as I said before, the files play just fine
on two of my other machines.



It really isn't much work or difficult to interpret. A wave editor will
show you both channels and it is easy to see if the amplitude on one is
higher than the other. I mentioned it because vocals are often on one
channel with the rest on the other. Which seems to sort of tie in with your
problem of one being louder.
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Also, aren't songs stored on cd in analog


format already, and not wav format? I mean, when you rip a cd to make a
backup, doesn't it actually have to convert from the format on the cd to
the wab format?



What's on a CD (or a tape or a hard drive) is digital...a numeric
representation of the analog sound. When you rip a CD the data thereon for
each track is copied and the resultant file is given a header so that it is
recognized as a wave file.

dadiOH
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#15 paul s
03/08/2003 - 01:29 | Informe spam
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 23:11:34 +0000, Doug wrote:

I switch between the two os's, so there's posting from both.
Also, I just tried playing a wav file, and that didn't work either,
so I guess I'm going to have to invest in a new sound card. What's funny
though
is that I experienced this before and it went away for a while



Intermittant fault I guess.

I duel boot Linux and XP. All my main stuff is done with Linux including
KazaaLite and WinMX under WINE, and XP is used to run MS Flight Sim and
MS Pinball Arcade.

BTW what flavour of Linux you using? I'm using Mandrake 9.1 here.

Paul S
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