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02/08/2003 - 06:00 por Doug | Informe spam

Hello to all, and really, a lot of thanks to all ahead of time who take the
time with resect to this problem. It is quite the serious one, and I have
no idea how to go about solving it, or even what could be causing it. I'll
try to be very descriptive...for more details just ask:

The Problem: I can't play MP3s clearly on ANY player, including winamp 2,
2.09, 2,9, 3, Windows Media Player, or RealPlayer. As a matter of fact I
get bad quality on avi's as well, divx inclusive. What I mean by clearly is
that if I'm playing a song lets say, the music is loud and clear, but the
singers lyrics can hardly be heard. Basically, the song sounds as if it
were recorded in a church where the echo would drown out any words in the
song, and actually, this echo is there. It sounds really weird, and I must
admit it's very hard to describe.

The System: Pentium 200 Mhz, yes its old, but all worked fine 1 month ago
(I've posted with regards to this problem before, but then when I thought it
wen't away, it's back now...fresh after an all complete system reinstall),
32 megs or RAM. Like I said, it played mp3's fine 1 month ago, and I have a
Pentium 133Mhz with 16 megs or RAM playes MP3s just fine!

Actions taken up to now: as I stated, this problem occured before, and then
went away again. It was suggested by a few that this problem could be
caused by add-ware shipped with kazaa. When the problem again came back (2
days ago), I finally decided to re-format the entire system (fdisk, format
...the whole nine yards), then installed win95 and win 98 (clean and from
scratch). After getting win98 installed on the system, I installed the
basic drivers for sound card, network adapter, video driver, and then tried
winamp. And to my complete surprise, the same thing happens, the song/audio
file, etc.. playes really strange, with a sort of echo in the background
with the lyrics drown out by the instrmentals (almost as if the "lyric
layer" was decreased in volume while the "song layer" was increased in
volume - if that's making any sense). Then I tried Windows Media Player
6.4, and the exact same thing occurs, can't play avi's, mp3... (didn't try
other compressed audio formats). It does play cd's, but that of course is
no surprise as playing cd format cd's isn't all that difficult for a cd-rom.
I should also mention that when I play these songs on any player, my
processor activity does not rise above 5%, thus eliminating the possibility
that the old pentium is having problems keeping up with the decompression.
Also, I was suspecting the sound card, but as already mentioned, I can play
cd's just fine...

Well, that's all I can think of which seems relevent for the time being...
.

Doug

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#21 paul s

03/08/2003 - 04:20 | Informe spam

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:48:56 +0200, julian-vlc-sp wrote:

Las letras es (Español) del inicio de este grupo quieren decir algo?

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#22 Doug

03/08/2003 - 09:38 | Informe spam

Well, I'm still fairly new to Linux, so as most, I've started of with
RedHat.
I got 9.0 installed, and I mainly use it for programming in Java. Although,
I'd
love to get familiar enough with it to completely switch from xp to rh9.
(with
the possibly difficulties existing with installing samba, this will take a
while I'm guessing)

Just a quick question about libraries in linux though. When installing
these
I usually compile them while logged in in my user account and then simply
move the *.so
files into the /usr/lib/ directory with root priviliges...is that all there
is to it if
you lack certain libraries? (it's late and I'm too lazy to read about it
now...although
I'll probably will have to give the library know-how a read sooner or later)

Doug

"paul s" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 23:11:34 +0000, Doug wrote:

> I switch between the two os's, so there's posting from both.
> Also, I just tried playing a wav file, and that didn't work either,
> so I guess I'm going to have to invest in a new sound card. What's

funny

> though
> is that I experienced this before and it went away for a while

Intermittant fault I guess.

I duel boot Linux and XP. All my main stuff is done with Linux including
KazaaLite and WinMX under WINE, and XP is used to run MS Flight Sim and
MS Pinball Arcade.

BTW what flavour of Linux you using? I'm using Mandrake 9.1 here.

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#23 Doug

03/08/2003 - 09:38 | Informe spam

So are the signals from both compressed sound files and from cd's sent
to the sound-card in analog format? That then wouldn't explain why
my sound doesn't work right (cd's work fine, compressed sound format
doesn't)?
Also, with regards to dadiOH's comment further down below,
you can actually play cd's directly from the cd-rom, so I wouldn't be
surprised if cd's were stored in analog formatheck, if they would be
digital, you'd
think that regular cd-players would have been digital for ages?

Doug
"paul s" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:55:09 -0500, Doug wrote:

> It makes so much sense that the only thing I can say ishow could I
> forget about that cable. And with regards to my last question, I guess
> that music stored on a regular cd is already in analog format?

The music is stored on a CD digitally but uncompressed, but is
converted to analogue within the drive, rather than via the sound-card.

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#24 dadiOH

03/08/2003 - 16:16 | Informe spam

"Doug" wrote in message
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So are the signals from both compressed sound files and from cd's sent
to the sound-card in analog format?

Think of an MP3 as sort of a shorthand code for the wave file from which it
was made. Both it and the wave are digital...*everything* on a computer is
digital.

In order for you to hear that MP3, it has to be decoded back to wave. On a
computer, that would normally be done by a program in RAM, then sent to the
sound card for conversion to analog. On a portable, it would be done by a
program on a ROM chip.
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Also, with regards to dadiOH's comment further down below,
you can actually play cd's directly from the cd-rom, so I wouldn't be
surprised if cd's were stored in analog formatheck, if they would be
digital, you'd
think that regular cd-players would have been digital for ages?

Yes, one would think that, wouldn't one? In fact, they *have* been digital
for ages...from day one.

Try to grasp this rather basic concept, Doug: data - including audio data -
on CDs is digital. Same for tape. Any tape. Same for *any* magnetic
medium including floppies, hard drives. Same for RAM. All digital.

dadiOH

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#25 Bill

03/08/2003 - 17:28 | Informe spam

dadiOH wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
news:tZ2Xa.596557$

So are the signals from both compressed sound files and from cd's sent
to the sound-card in analog format?

Think of an MP3 as sort of a shorthand code for the wave file from which it
was made. Both it and the wave are digital...*everything* on a computer is
digital.

In order for you to hear that MP3, it has to be decoded back to wave. On a
computer, that would normally be done by a program in RAM, then sent to the
sound card for conversion to analog. On a portable, it would be done by a
program on a ROM chip.
______________________

Also, with regards to dadiOH's comment further down below,
you can actually play cd's directly from the cd-rom, so I wouldn't be
surprised if cd's were stored in analog formatheck, if they would be
digital, you'd
think that regular cd-players would have been digital for ages?

Yes, one would think that, wouldn't one? In fact, they *have* been digital
for ages...from day one.

Try to grasp this rather basic concept, Doug: data - including audio data -
on CDs is digital. Same for tape. Any tape. Same for *any* magnetic
medium including floppies, hard drives. Same for RAM. All digital.

dadiOH

Well, not exactly, dadiOH. The signals on cassette and open reel tapes (and 8
track) were analog in nature. Same thing was true for records.

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