[OT] Sun ayudara en el desarrollo del Opteron.

sssj wrote:

Duele saber la verdad.

Lo que debe doler es ponerse a hablar de procesadores, que te
repliquen, no saber responder, y tener que ponerse a hablar
de abogados porque no se sabe como contrareplicar. Eso si que
debe de doler :)

En el documento que te he puesto habla de que Intel ha pagado desarrollos a IBM para mantener su posicion en IBM. Buscalo Paginas 19
y 20:
"
51. IBM. AMD and IBM began negotiations in August 2000 over a proposed

commercial PC business partnership. After seven months and with a deal nearing completion,

Intel approached IBM with an incentive-based program under which Intel would become

IBM's "preferred supplier" for processors in commercial products. "Preferred" meant

exclusive. IBM accepted Intel's proposal and terminated discussions with AMD. In return for

that exclusivity, according to IBM executive Ed Thum, Intel paid IBM "millions of dollars in

market development funds."

52. Intel also acted to thwart AMD efforts to partner with IBM on servers. Although

IBM joined AMD as a launch partner when it introduced its Opteron 64-bit server chip in April

2003 - signaling to the industry and IT professionals its confidence in the product - Intel soon

dissuaded IBM from aggressively marketing Opteron servers. After investing heavily in its

design, IBM consigned its one Opteron computer model to a single target market segment

(High Performance and Technical Computing). This was done, according to an industry report

(confirmed by an IBM executive), because Intel paid IBM to shelve any further Opteron

development. IBM also took Intel money in 2004 to scrap plans for a multiple-microprocessor

Opteron server it had already designed and previewed with customers.

53. Intel has also purchased IBM exclusivity in its "ThinkCentre" line of commercial

desktops. When AMD pressed IBM to add an Athlon 64 model to its "ThinkCentre" roadmap,

IBM executives explained that the move would cost them important Intel subsidies, and they

declined."






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"Diego Calleja" escribió en el mensaje news:

sssj wrote:

Duele saber la verdad.

Lo que debe doler es ponerse a hablar de procesadores, que te
repliquen, no saber responder, y tener que ponerse a hablar
de abogados porque no se sabe como contrareplicar. Eso si que
debe de doler :)

por eso IBM se ha gastado 100 Milloones de $ en el desarrollo de un nuevo
chipset para Xeon.

baja del arbol

(no he visto a ni un solo "tecnico" defender las posturas que tu defiendes).


Jose Manuel Tella Llop
MVP - Windows
(quitar XXX)
http://www.multingles.net/jmt.htm

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news:OZqa%

En el documento que te he puesto habla de que Intel ha pagado desarrollos
a IBM para mantener su posicion en IBM. Buscalo Paginas 19 y 20:
"
51. IBM. AMD and IBM began negotiations in August 2000 over a proposed

commercial PC business partnership. After seven months and with a deal
nearing completion,

Intel approached IBM with an incentive-based program under which Intel
would become

IBM's "preferred supplier" for processors in commercial products.
"Preferred" meant

exclusive. IBM accepted Intel's proposal and terminated discussions with
AMD. In return for

that exclusivity, according to IBM executive Ed Thum, Intel paid IBM
"millions of dollars in

market development funds."

52. Intel also acted to thwart AMD efforts to partner with IBM on servers.
Although

IBM joined AMD as a launch partner when it introduced its Opteron 64-bit
server chip in April

2003 - signaling to the industry and IT professionals its confidence in
the product - Intel soon

dissuaded IBM from aggressively marketing Opteron servers. After investing
heavily in its

design, IBM consigned its one Opteron computer model to a single target
market segment

(High Performance and Technical Computing). This was done, according to an
industry report

(confirmed by an IBM executive), because Intel paid IBM to shelve any
further Opteron

development. IBM also took Intel money in 2004 to scrap plans for a
multiple-microprocessor

Opteron server it had already designed and previewed with customers.

53. Intel has also purchased IBM exclusivity in its "ThinkCentre" line of
commercial

desktops. When AMD pressed IBM to add an Athlon 64 model to its
"ThinkCentre" roadmap,

IBM executives explained that the move would cost them important Intel
subsidies, and they

declined."






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"Diego Calleja" escribió en el mensaje
news:

sssj wrote:

Duele saber la verdad.

Lo que debe doler es ponerse a hablar de procesadores, que te
repliquen, no saber responder, y tener que ponerse a hablar
de abogados porque no se sabe como contrareplicar. Eso si que
debe de doler :)

No lo digo yo, lo dice Ed Thum Ejecutivo de IBM.
Pregunta a Ed Thum, el seguro que te contesta.


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"JM Tella Llop [MVP Windows]" escribió en el mensaje news:

por eso IBM se ha gastado 100 Milloones de $ en el desarrollo de un nuevo chipset para Xeon.

baja del arbol

(no he visto a ni un solo "tecnico" defender las posturas que tu defiendes).


Jose Manuel Tella Llop
MVP - Windows
(quitar XXX)
http://www.multingles.net/jmt.htm

Este mensaje se proporciona "como está" sin garantías de ninguna clase,
y no otorga ningún derecho.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
You assume all risk for your use.



"sssj" wrote in message news:OZqa%

En el documento que te he puesto habla de que Intel ha pagado desarrollos a IBM para mantener su posicion en IBM. Buscalo Paginas
19 y 20:
"
51. IBM. AMD and IBM began negotiations in August 2000 over a proposed

commercial PC business partnership. After seven months and with a deal nearing completion,

Intel approached IBM with an incentive-based program under which Intel would become

IBM's "preferred supplier" for processors in commercial products. "Preferred" meant

exclusive. IBM accepted Intel's proposal and terminated discussions with AMD. In return for

that exclusivity, according to IBM executive Ed Thum, Intel paid IBM "millions of dollars in

market development funds."

52. Intel also acted to thwart AMD efforts to partner with IBM on servers. Although

IBM joined AMD as a launch partner when it introduced its Opteron 64-bit server chip in April

2003 - signaling to the industry and IT professionals its confidence in the product - Intel soon

dissuaded IBM from aggressively marketing Opteron servers. After investing heavily in its

design, IBM consigned its one Opteron computer model to a single target market segment

(High Performance and Technical Computing). This was done, according to an industry report

(confirmed by an IBM executive), because Intel paid IBM to shelve any further Opteron

development. IBM also took Intel money in 2004 to scrap plans for a multiple-microprocessor

Opteron server it had already designed and previewed with customers.

53. Intel has also purchased IBM exclusivity in its "ThinkCentre" line of commercial

desktops. When AMD pressed IBM to add an Athlon 64 model to its "ThinkCentre" roadmap,

IBM executives explained that the move would cost them important Intel subsidies, and they

declined."






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"Diego Calleja" escribió en el mensaje news:

sssj wrote:

Duele saber la verdad.

Lo que debe doler es ponerse a hablar de procesadores, que te
repliquen, no saber responder, y tener que ponerse a hablar
de abogados porque no se sabe como contrareplicar. Eso si que
debe de doler :)

Ni los de Sun, ni los de AMD. Baja del arbol tu.

(no he visto a ni un solo "tecnico" defender las posturas que tu defiendes).